Cerium Hose Herren

This is the same as the Atom Pant. Only ever made it in a men's, then discontinued. Would like to see a full length zip on the pants.

I like these but ... 1) The pants lack the versitility of the Cerium jacket. Just being honest here, I don't always wear a shell every time I wear a Cerium like jacket. Probably 95% of the time I wear that kind of jacket without a shell. But the stresses these pants are exposed to are greater than those for a jacket, especially in the seat, knees and ankles. You shouldn't assume you can wear these pants in the same situations as the Cerium jacket without a shell. 2) Design decisions limit the applications for these. Down means static activities and exterior material means that a shell is required except in a sleeping bag. Seat material means you can not sit on ground or rough surfaces (rocks, twigs, branches, thorns, ...) crampons tear this material up with minimal contact. Why isn't the exterior material of the seat thicker? Arcteryx uses different insulation in parts of their gear for venting. Why don't they also use different exterior materials in high wear points? 3) Where you buy your equipment matters. I bought direct from Arcteryx. If I purchased from the large US based outdoor goods coop they would have taken it back no questions. The manufacturer response to my situation meant I had to pay for repairs and shipping back to a third party repair provider. 4) Arcteryx support just facilitates service with a third party repair provider. Arcteryx only pays for the small thermal patches, not panel replacements. I paid for my outbound shipping and panel repairs. Repairs and shipping cost more than 50% of the original price. Summary - So I've invested 1.6x the original MSRP for a repaired set of pants worn 6 days so far. They have two replacement panels and ~6 thermal patches. Obviously there is something I like about these pants otherwise I wouldn't have spent so much to get them repaired. But they are not an all purpose, go anywhere, do anything pants. They have to be teated with care and thoughtfulness. Sit down on a rock and say goodbye to the seat. These are delicate and have to be treated with delicate hands. Those who are rough on equipment may not be happy with something like this. I get why Arcteryx describes them as ready in an "emergency," they are light, warm and packable. The point of this review is to share what's good and bad about these. Not to trash the pants. I like them despite their limitations. Buyers who don't understand what these are may be disappointed if you're not prepared for the expected repair costs.